Food for thought on the Rutgers Faculty Complaints
As a non-Rutgers alum, I laugh very hard at the faculty's hatred for the athletics department. I've seen the insides of a lot of America's biggest academic settings. Just some quick thoughts.
First, Rutgers - NB ranks number 8 (edit: of public universities) in the country in average salary for university professors at $140,100. The number one school? NJIT at $151,000. Notable both Rutgers-Newark (#6) and Rutgers-Camden (#10) both are also in the top 10. The rest of the schools in the top 10 - Michigan, Cal, UCLA, Ga Tech and UNC - all schools with significant football programs. The only schools without big time football programs on the list include: UMBC and the aforementioned NJ Schools (minus RU-NB).
Second, besides being top 10 in salary, the dirty secret of University funding is that the real money comes from faculty procured research grants and other endowments. Yes, tuition and other state subsidies are significant. But, most elite schools use these grants to go over the top. Yet, despite top 10 pay Rutgers NB only ranks 45th out of all public universities in total research funding. Notably, based on Arizona State's Center for Measuring University Performance, each of the schools ranked higher that Rutgers in research (except 1, UC-Davis) are Division 1 football programs.
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the funding total
is skewed by not having a med school. UMDNJ will fix that.
There’s just so much ignorance and misinformation. I was reading the Targum article today on this, and professors were spewing outright lies. Plain fiction.
Pernetti needs to sit down with them and go down the budget, line by line. Everyone’s mind is warped by bad media coverage.
Lack of context creates misinformation.
Perhaps their side is a bunch of hooey, but your argument certainly is as well.
Rutgers NB ranks number 8 in the country among public universities – not all universities. In fact, all top 10 private Universities have higher average salaries. Also, this number is only true for “full-time” professors, and you make no mention as to what percentage of the NB faculty falls into this category. Nor do you take into account that the average or mean is not always the most telling figure for comparison purposes; there are many pay scales such that the average salary could come out to 140,000. Perhaps a few professors who make lots and lots of money drive up the average salary of the vast majority who make less than 140,000. See?
More significantly, your analysis fails to account for the higher cost of living in the New York Metro area. For instance, a professor making 140,000, living in New Brunswick, New Jersey has the same standard of living as someone making $98,000 in Houston, Texas. (http://www.bestplaces.net/col/?salary=140000&city1=53451210&city2=54835000).
Indeed, your source acknowledges, “Analyzing the relative rank of colleges and universities in average salaries is tricky any year. These figures don’t take into consideration such matters as cost of living, which varies widely from rural college towns to major urban areas. And this year, when many institutions froze salaries, movement may be based on such factors as how many faculty members at which income levels took early retirement incentives that were offered.” (Read more: http://www.insidehighered.com/news/2010/04/12/salaries#ixzz1lF221k1g)
Lastly, look at the average salaries for professors at community colleges in the area:
1. Westchester Community College $116,700
2. Queensborough Community College $110,200
3. Hostos Community College $108,700
4. LaGuardia Community College $106,400
5. Borough of Manhattan Community College $104,000
6. Kingsborough Community College $102,300
7. Bronx Community College $99,800
8. Miami University Hamilton $97,300
I challenge you to find out where these schools rank on the national research rankings.
by Bill.S.Preston.Esq on Feb 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST reply actions
Higher costs exist for Sports programs, too
If you argue the faculty needs to be paid more because they live in NY (many do) or even Central Jersey, then so do the athletic department employees. Further, the cost of building a stadium addition in NJ versus Arkansas can be significant (see Giants stadium cost for reference). So its not simply the cost factor that supports the faculty’s average salary. The other issue for the faculty that they don’t like acknowledging, and hence try to redirect focus on how wasteful athletic costs affect them, is how ‘productive’ are they? How many classes do they teach? How many students are in their classes, and does their subject matter expertise drive value to the university by attracting quality students? Some can say yes…others not so easy. I saw the University of Texas was doing an analysis similar to this to value their programs and how professors should be compensated. It may not be perfect but it should be part of the equation. SImilar to athletics—what advertising and positive imaging does it generate? What’s the value of that in tems of the state of NJ, the attraction of students and faculty (at least some!).
Thanks for the clarification
Yes, you are correct that the list of top ten was for public universities. I’ll change that. Thanks for pointing that out.
That’s fair enough to explain that faculty salaries averages are far more complex than pure averages. But, can you tell me using quantitative measures that demonstrates Rutgers faculty provides value measured in compensation against University income generated through research – using all the variables you cite to debunk the above.
In addition, can you also include comparative models against other schools with comparable or higher costs of living including Cal, UCLA, and UNC?
Until then, faculty can get off their soapbox.
Thank you
Obtaining research grants is the faculty’s job. While Jon, above, is correct that UMDNJ should fix the overall ranking for research grants. You’re absolutely correct that Rutgers has a prime strategic location that should be outperforming others.
Misinterpretations
Actually, it’s more inaccurate than that (public universities). The cited numbers are for full professors, who are at the highest level rank among faculty and have been in academia earning their way to the top for many years. I don’t know what the amount of time one must put in at Rutgers to advance to full professor, but I’m sure it is at least 10 years and probably more than that (much longer than most of our coaches, FWIW). Since there has been a trend away from hiring full-time tenured faculty at many institutions (particularly public ones) towards hiring part-time or non-tenure-track faculty who are contracted, the average salary is likely much lower. If Rutgers shells out dough for the big names out there who attract the big dollars, so be it – that is a good thing. It doesn’t reflect what the average assistant professor teaching introductory biology to 400 students in Beck Hall is making. These numbers don’t show that, whatever it is.
I would like to learn more about what promises in salary increases Rutgers reneged on. Would you have any info or links for this?
If I can get clarification
Would the practice and numbers be different at Rutgers as it is from Cal, UCLA and UNC? So what would the actual numbers be at Rutgers comparative to other Universities? How would their value be measured from a quantitative standpoint?
I don’t know the answer to those questions. It is an overall trend towards lower-paid non-tenure track faculty that is occurring nationwide. I would be curious to know where RU stands in terms of entry-level (assistant professor) salaries. Perhaps RU pays them poorly, but offers good money to more established full professors to woo them and their associated grants from other universities? Who knows.
My point was that I have seen this report commonly posted over the years about faculty salaries, but it doesn’t show that. The number you cite (#8 for RU-NB) is for full professors, and while they are clearly well-paid at RU, they are an overall small proportion and we can’t tell what the overall average salary is like. Maybe the average for the entire faculty is high, maybe not. We can’t tell from this.
Measuring faculty value quantitatively is very difficult, and it’s something that is struggled with in all universities. The perception among many faculty is that research dollars are valued much more than teaching ability (and amount), which is sad.
This is more of a political/perception problem than anything else . . .
RU athletics (and admin) need to take the time to explain to faculty what athletics brings to the table and what it costs. I think Perentti is doing the best he can, but the RU administration should show a little courage and do a little in house marketing as well. It’s a tough sell and somewhat thankless (you’ll always have folks who don’t like athletics, or doughnuts for that matter), but it’s important to do it.
This is just old news
It is an old negotiating ploy used for years by labor. My value to the company is greater than x, therefore we should be paid more than x. What is used to determine “value” is as subjective as the definition of “fair”, so they posture and manipulate.
The timing of this publicity campaign is not a coincidence. The incumbent university pres. is on his way out and cannot impact this situation. When the new pres. arrives he/she is assumed to be at a disadvantage, not knowing the intimate history of the situation. So this cadre of profs will try to bully the new pres,. put him/her on the defensive from day one and gain concesstions to obtain their $$$ early in the tenure.
In reaction to this I hope the new Pres. moves quickly to obtain financing to update the RAC or expand the fb stadium further. That should send the proper message.
Right on the money.
The above postures about the true focal point of labor negotiations – value of the labor force.
expansion is a separate issue than facility upgrades
there’s a case for the latter, although I think it may need to wait until Rice can finish his rebuild. Rutgers didn’t start expanding until GS had been around for some time. They received facility upgrades early, but that was in a different fiscal climate, and RU is much more of a FB than BB school.
by On the Banks on Feb 2, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions

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