Plotting a Big East coup
Villanova's attempt to join the Big East conference for football has led to a bit of a stalemate in conference offices. Villanova needs the support of six of the eight football programs to join, and may not be in any way close to that number, as Big East football schools see adding Villanova as a financial drag on the conference. At the same time, further all-sports expansion with the likes of UCF or Houston may not be possible for similar reasons. The football schools will not support Villanova, and the non-football schools turn around and oppose surrendering additional shares of their basketball revenue.
This discussion clearly leaves one in want of a copy of the Big East's operating procedures and bylaws with regard to topics like league membership. Adding TCU would give the football schools a 9-8 majority after years of impasse, bolstering their clout, but that total may not be sufficient to overrule any dissent. Past media reports have suggested that the conference requires a 75% super majority on new membership votes, although it is not clear about whether or not that requirement changed in light of the 2003 ACC raid. There is ample historical precedent from 1994 however.
Two actions by the presidents helped solve the problem. They voted to change the minimum number of votes for approval in the future from two-thirds of the membership to three-fourths. The presidents also secured the support of Connecticut and Villanova by determining that members could elevate their football programs to the I-A level by declaring an intention by 1998 and meeting N.C.A.A. requirements for participation at that level by 2002.
That story came in the context of Rutgers's rumored dalliance with the Big Ten conference. The Big East was, as it is now, radically split along football lines (a Sword of Damocles existing since the league originally formed, evidenced by the repeated attempts to squash a competing eastern all-sports conference in its tracks from the get go.) At that time Rutgers, West Virginia, Virginia Tech, and Temple were only in the Big East for football. Georgetown, Providence, and Seton Hall were entrenched; loathe to surrender their privileged status even if meant leaving them worse for the wear. That crisis was dissolved by offering UConn and Villanova the chance to join the Big East for football, coupled with St. John's caving after Temple and VT were voted down (sowing future seeds of resentment in the process that later helped push VT to the ACC.)
One possible way out of the standoff could be an amicable split, which would remove the impetus for an acrimonious, drawn out fight for control of the Big East's legacy (as well as any possible endangering of the BCS auto-bid that could result.) Villanova's determination to join the Big East conference for football is largely driven by fears that they and the Big East's other non-football schools would end up out in the cold were the six "major" conferences with automatic bids to the bowl championship series to secede from the NCAA. Maintaining a loose Big East confederation (essentially everyone would still play in non-revenue sports, and the football schools would guarantee to give the non-football schools a seat at the table in any NCAA secession scenario) may not be fair or deserved on the merits, but may end up being the most appealing of several unpalatable options.Odds and inertia favor a continued stalemate, and compromise as described above is always a possibility. What if these issues actually come to a head though in a manner where more drastic measures would be necessary? The Big East is currently in the midst of renegotiating its television rights contract with ESPN, providing the perfect opportunity for internal conference intrigue to spill out into the open. Suppose ESPN makes a frank demand for additional game inventory. They want a tenth team, and will not take no for an answer without imparting significant financial penalties. Both sides remain intractable for the reasons described above, seeing the status quo as superior to adding Villanova football or an 18th team respectively. What would happen then?
There is a third, hybrid scenario beyond standing pat or splitting; every option was up for debate in 2003 with a true existential crisis at hand. In fact, the following is mostly attributable to Villanova and Georgetown fans over the years, being concerned about the NCAA blowing up, and wanting to be on the right side of the equation were that to ever happen. With this option, the Big East would return somewhat to its pre-2003 setup in being an unbalanced hybrid configuration where the all-sports schools constitute a clear majority, but there is still a place for some non-football schools. Every iteration varies to some extent, but the most popular one involves Villanova, Georgetown, St. John's, and Notre Dame remaining members in good standing of the Big East conference. The likes of Providence, DePaul, Marquette, and Seton Hall would be summarily booted out into the cold comfort of mid-majordom; one final act of retribution for Rutgers and West Virginia, although such a split would clearly be driven primarily by financial concerns.
It is not difficult to imagine any number of hangups that could throw a wrench into these plans. Do the football schools accept such a compromise, or ultimately stick to their guns in enacting a clean and permanent break and fissure? Do the surviving basketball schools hang their confederates out to dry, and dutifully accept their minority status in perpetuity as preferable to permanent relegation to mid-major status? It is hard to imagine the conference leadership being amenable to this scenario considering it has largely existed over the past three decades as a patronage mill for Providence College. At each and every opportunity they have long prioritized the interests of programs like PC above the common good for the broader league, and would almost certainly be determined to wage a scorched earth campaign aimed at preventing those marginal programs from finally having to face reality. Any expulsions could provoke a rash of lawsuits and legislative scrutiny.
The last matter is what really has to concern Rutgers fans, who are among the most eager proponents of both a split and of taking a hard line against the Big East's non-football schools. Other all-sports programs in the league are public institutions located in the same state as potential expansion targets, and theoretically could be the target of local lobbying and pressure if future expansion were to happen. I cannot speak with knowledge about those situations, and can only worry about any headaches likely to come up on our end. Rutgers on the other hand is the only current member sharing a state with a program with a good chance of ending up on the wrong side of any conference reshuffling. That is unlikely to a problem in the event of a clean split, but he gloves would come off were, say, Seton Hall facing relegation to the Atlantic 10.
SHU is a small private institution, and no New Jersey college or university has much in the way of political influence to begin with, but the Pirates do have a handful of influential backers, including one very powerful patron in State Senator Dick Codey. Codey, who in many respects has been a friend to the Rutgers athletic department, was deposed from his position as Senate president last year. The landscape of state political alliances is ever changing, and it is not difficult to imagine Codey eventually returning to power after successfully fighting off attempts to eliminate his Senate seat via redistricting. Does anyone know if there was any political pushback when Seton Hall voted against Rutgers joining the league?
Furthermore, there is always the danger of devolving into a parochial proxy war between the local political machines in Middlesex and Essex counties. That is exactly what started happening when Rutgers made a bid to regain control of the UMDNJ campus in New Brunswick. The whole concept is ridiculous, but either those North Jersey legislators would need to extract a lucrative ransom of concessions, or Rutgers could find its (increasingly meager) state funding threatened by bloviated political machinations. That suddenly becomes a very big problem if the Big East's 75% requirement for membership votes is still in place.
The point of the above speculation was not necessarily to mark any outcome as more or less likely than any other. Rather, it was an attempt to point out the numerous pratfalls likely to occur with any course of action. There is a reason that the Big East's membership ranks have only changed at a relative incremental pace throughout its history. Radical change is always seemingly on the horizon, and probably will be until if and when an all-sports league is formed, or the league is dismembered by its neighbors. It is time to get with the program, and acknowledge what the rest of the national landscape widely recognizes: football is king, and the ultimate driver of revenue and television rights packages.
Every so often throughout its history the Big East has rearranged its membership chess pieces, which is all the more reason to split in the end. Villanova potentially upgrading its football program is nothing less than a proxy for battle to drag the league kicking and screaming into the 21st century. They need to fundamentally change the way that they conduct business, because the current setup is not in any way satisfactory to half of the existing membership, and that half currently holds most of the leverage. Everything is stuck at an impasse, with little hope for definitive resolution beyond half-measures that satisfy no one. The football schools need to force the issue before league commissioner John Marinatto negotiates a mediocre television rights deal dooming them to another decade of financial hardship and looking over their collective shoulder.
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Big east expansion scenero
NORTH:
UCONN
RUTGERS
SYRACUSE
PITT
TEMPLE
ARMY
UMASS
WVU
SOUTH:
CINCI
LOUISIVILLE
USF
HOUSTON
UCF
ECU
TCU
MEMPHIS
Have the championship game at the stadium of whoever has the best record.
You need a lot of creampuffs to make the big teams in the NE look respectable. The best way to get attention would be to have an undefeated team, even if it comes through beating down crappy teams. This strategy worked for TCU, Utah, and Boise State. And yes, it pissed a lot of people off to have Boise State and TCU highly ranked, but it still worked. What doesn’t work for national recognition is having Pitt and UCONN having 5-3 conference records.
Second, you could arrange the conference schedule so that you stack UMass, Army, Memphis, etc at the front of the schedule of the important teams that need to succeed (Pitt, Rutgers, WVU, or UConn), so they can start the season undefeated. And then you can have the big 7-0 vs 7-0 conference games on Thursday night, like they did a few years back. That was the last time I remember the Big East actually getting some respect.
Finially, the even the SEC has perennial cream puffs that are there to make the other teams look good: Mississippi State, Vandy, Ole Miss, and Kentucky. Oh yeah, and Temple has a chance of getting good. Rutgers football was a national punchline when I was a kid.
Split
A split between the (big) football schools and and the (little) basketball schools is the only answer and probably inevitable. House divided and all that (see Lincoln, A.)
If you absorb enough C-USA schools, you become….C-USA.
West Virginia fans hate everybody. They remember every snub and joke and bit of snark. And they never forgive, and they never, ever forget. In other words, they're a lot like West Virginians in general.
by Kid Tenderloin on Apr 30, 2011 10:27 AM EDT reply actions
The Day the Big East almost DIED...2003
Some interesting reading if you haven’t seen this already.
http://mysite.verizon.net/fethrs/Minutes%20July%202003.pdf
BIG EAST CONFERENCE
FOOTBALL CEO MEETING AGENDA
JULY 9, 2003
NEWARK AIRPORT MARRIOT
NEWARK, NEW JERSEY
by Butch Hobson's elbo chips on May 2, 2011 2:21 PM EDT reply actions
my bad...
I originally didnt see the link to that in the article….sorry.
by Butch Hobson's elbo chips on May 2, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm ALL for it...
i have been in heavy favor for a Big East split for quite sometime now… forming a brand “new” conference, one that would then ultimately have no current TV contract in place (as the current one is with the “big east” which would dissolve), instantly puts them on the open market, instead of having to wait till 2013, all-the-while hoping to renegotiate a current crap deal to become even remotely in the right neighborhood… the name “big east” means nothing to me, just so long as the 8 (TCU) football teams remain intact, you can call it anything you’d like… and with those 8 members, goes with them “MOST” of the top basketball prestige anyhow, with Rutgers and Mike Rice looking to make leaps and bounds forward in basketball in the next few years as well… in the open market, Comcast/NBC (which also has GE backing them as a 49% share holder of NBC still) just missed out to Fox on the Pac12 deal, and is still looking to get in on college football… NBC is already in bed with Notre Dame, and if the new conference can sign a lucrative enough deal with NBC, (also forming a new profit sharing conf. network channel), ideally there could be enough umph there to even coax ND to renegotiate and go all in with the new conference, locking up even more money overall for their program, and the conference as a whole… and then, if they want, they can invite 4 teams w/ top notch basketball back over as non-football members to retain an elite 16 team basketball conference, mirroring the OG big east they just left behind, but better, as football now holds the cards, the majority vote, and rightfully so drives the ship forward, and providence is out of the equation altogether now, so the conference can succeed under proper leadership… new conference should also have a voluntary “teams can’t leave for 10 years” clause signed by all new members, ensuring that a decade of establishment transpires together before any possibility of having a team poached elsewhere… they go in it together, and they promise to stick together for 10 years until all is established, then other avenues can be entertained….
-so my dream, football big east football secedes to form a new conference; with comcast/NBC buying the primary media rights, forming a true network, and espn retaining 2nd tier rights, money +NBC’s pull coaxes Notre Dame to be a part of it. invite 2 more FB schools, and then 4 elite basketball schools, w/ FCS programs as potential insurance for down the road; (i was all for UCF till this new scandal hit, so reevaluated w/o them, but still think they could offer some long term benfits if it all blows over)
EAST; WVU, Pitt, Syracuse, Uconn, Rutgers, USF (G-Town, ‘Nova)
WEST; N.D., Cincy, L’Ville, TCU, SMU, Houston (Butler, Murray St.)
*retains OG Big East basketball prestige + legitmate FB across the board w/ a championship game, w/ strong markets across the board… Pac12 just signed a 12-year, $2.7B contract equalling almost $19M per school ( future network money w/ the formation of a Pac12 network)… this new conference, with football driving the ship, (but basketball still helpin’ set the sails as the nations elite), with strong markets, a 10-year $2B – all-sports contract, isn’t out of the question for a big company as NBC (w/ comcast and GE ownership), to buy the rights to an AQ conf. in order to get into the world of collegiate sports at the top level (being as how all the others are already taken)… those numbers would equate to $16.5M for football schools, (and $5M to basketball only), putting them at least on par with the current going rates, so they can legitmately still compete on the same playing field (financially, and thus elsewhere)… everybody wins (except those non-football schools left out, but they were just hungy mouths to feed, stealing off the plate while offering little or nothing in return)… core of the conference is retained, new conf. is more secure, new markets are added, and some of the C-USA’s better programs now have their AQ shot or shut up chance… and even N.D. is up significantly from it’s estimated $11.35M it’s been making off NBC + BigEast basketball $$$… not to mention, if the conference really is as weak as everybody claims, Notre Dame playing in, should have no trouble challenging for the title every year, thus earning the BCS bid that’s been eluding them of late, putting the program back on the map as a conf. champion and BCS rep, rather then a mid-program that perennially schedules a rediculous tough schedule vs. all other conferences, only to make a minor bowl if their lucky, as they’ve unfortunately become…

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