Villanova football a Big East pipe dream
It's one day later, and yesterday's story about the Big East considering adding Villanova as a football school still does not make a lick of sense with things now going public in a very big way. A decision could be in by the end of the calendar year. Your move, Jim Delany.
As the article itself stated:
Where Villanova would play is an issue. Temple calls Lincoln Financial Field home. Sources said that makes it unlikely Villanova also would play there. Villanova Stadium has a capacity of 12,000, and the prospect of enlarging it apparently is not feasible. The NCAA requires 15,000 in actual or paid attendance for all home games for FBS schools. The attendance requirement must be met in 1 year over a 2-year period.>
Temple fans claim that the lease is "ironclad". What I have been able to find is that the is at $1 million a year running through 2017. That would not be impossible to buy out, but the cost would be prohibitive. The Philadelphia Inquirer today says that Temple is also under consideration, and lays out the rationale for the latest push (and further clarifying the stadium issue).
There are other logistical hurdles. The Big East offered confer football membership on UConn and Villanova in 1997, and there is a very good reason that only the Huskies said yes. Villanova is a small private school, with less than 7,000 undergraduates (there were literally thousands more in the Rutgers student section last Thursday night for a FCS opponent). It claims 102,000 living alumni worldwide. In contrast, UConn has over 20,000 undergraduates and 204,500 alumni. For any readers with access to Newsbank or a similar services, check out the initial 1997 articles from the Inquirer or Daily News, which I am unable to access.
Oh yeah, the Huskies also had one other advantage over Villanova: UConn is a state school, which receives strong financial support from the state of Connecticut. The Rent was built on donated land that used to be an airport, but still required a $106 million stadium bond (link is required reading on this subject). Throw in fully funding 85 scholarships, and other facilities upgrades, and this is not going to be a walk in the park by any stretch of the imagination. Considering that the article mentioned that Villanova would likely need additional financial assistance from the Big East, how is this idea not being dismissed as a complete non-starter?
Big East football needs at least one more team to balance out scheduling, but if the concept is also to get better, why add a FCS charity case? As Dan Levy points out, if it is imperative to add a team in Philadelphia, wouldn't it be more realistic to bring back Temple? TU is a much larger school than Nova. They've got a lot of momentum right now, and just beat Villanova last week. Temple gives the Big East flexibility. While it wouldn't be ideal, they could come back as a football-only member and not disrupt the rest of the conference makeup. (By the way, the unnamed Big East official who told Brett McMurphy that having 50 teams wouldn't matter is an idiot.)
Another option is for the eight Big East football schools to add Temple (and possibly a UCF) and sever the league in two, which theoretically should be on the table by now (the following paragraph was written in 2005.)
The 16-school Big East begins play next fall. The group has amended the conference's constitution and agreed to withdrawal and dissolution clauses that allow the group to break up with no penalty after five years. Anyone that leaves before five years is subject to a $5-million withdrawal penalty and must wait 27 months before departing.
Hence, the rumors about the Big East quietly putting out feelers to Atlantic-10 teams in recent months. That scenario definitely puts a fright into the basketball schools though, which goes beyond the prospect of losing meal ticket programs like Syracuse and UConn. If the six (for now) BCS power conferences ever were to secede from the NCAA, the cartel could create their own postseason basketball tournament and lock mid and low majors out of the BCS and March Madness entirely, keeping more of the revenue pie for themselves.
This proposal is a desperate bid by the cronies in Providence to maintain the (completely unworkable) status quo. The Big East leadership has consistently shown a lack of regard for fairness, proportionality, or any semblance of long-term strategy with its slavish devotion to the conference's eight non-football private schools. They have deliberately weighed down and stifled any and all football ambitions, with failure and incompetence at every turn, heading off any potential threats to their sense of entitlement. Rutgers fans can only react with contempt and revulsion at this proposal, growing increasingly desperate in their hopes for deliverance.
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Franklin Field is a great option for Villanova.
It seats about 60,000 and is currently used by Penn. Villanova has the coaching staff and currently has a good enough recruiting record to at least be average in DI.
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Franklin Field is oldddd
can’t imagine it would generate much in the way of revenue, presuming Penn is even in a cooperative mood.
by On the Banks on Sep 11, 2010 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
There aren’t many options for Villanova other than Franklin Field. As you already stated, its current stadium is too small and cannot be expanded and Temple holds an iron fisted lease on the Linc. Talk to my father about Philly area non-professional sports stadiums, Franklin Field is really the only viable option. Though old, Franklin Field’s history is undeniable and an annual stadium/city rivalry could be arranged between Penn and Villanova.
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by Scott Kessler on Sep 11, 2010 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Point of Villanova
No offense, but your missing the point of Villanova. The comissioner of the Big east, is thinking very smart and logically here and this will lead to a 18 or 20 team conference, possibly ending a run with Notre Dame and Depaul. Right now, if the Big East tried to add any more teams or kick out any, it would need at least 50% as stated in the bylaws of the conference. Becuase there are 8 football and 8 basketballs schools, it would end every time. But if Villanova has a football program, they will want to build it any way they can in the FBS and get as much money to prevent debt. The best way to do this is through a television contract. The better the teams, the better the contract. Therefore, with Villanova, a 9-7 vote occurs and the football schools can now add other schools and run the conference like they should.
Why Nova Makes Sense and how it could work
Why Nova Makes Sense
1) You balance out football without impacting Basketball, the BBall schools that usually foul things up when it comes to expansion will be pleased. Both the Full members and Basketball members will get what they want! 16 BBall teams and 9 football teams.
2) Nova is not a charity case, they are the reigning FCS champs which means they are probably ahead of most non BCS schools and many bcs conference members. Do you honestly think they are worse than Louisville?
How it can work
PPL Stadium in Chester is about a 20 minute drive form Campus, it has a current capacity of 19,500 (big enough for FBS) and can expand to 30.

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